[65631] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Does any know where the link is for
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Richard Irving)
Wed Dec 3 19:51:43 2003
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 19:53:15 -0500
From: Richard Irving <rirving@onecall.net>
To: John Starta <john@starta.org>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <6724A050-25F0-11D8-922C-000A958747A2@starta.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
John Starta wrote:
> If you locate this, please forward the link along.
I haven't found the original, it was dated about
97-99... NLANR, perhaps ????
But, there are more recent write ups...
Here are two I encountered:
<http://www.inetdaemon.com/tools/ping_is_not.html>
This one explains why PING -may- be bad, but regular
performance, OK...
(Call it the end user explanation of ACL-CAR intervention)
:)
And this one,( more what I was looking for..)
a detailed explanation of the caveats of clever
tracerouting providing Bogus Data.
<http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robin.d.h.walker/cmtips/traceroute.html>
I needed something for a rookie tech who was "whining"
about a site tracerouting with an intervening router
- appearing - slow (An exchange BGP router, go figure),
but an end to end of -38 ms-, -consistent- and with -no- loss.
He didn't believe the explanation of the BGP rumble...
and I was growing frustrated with the need for detail,
when it just wasn't registering !
:(
"When the Judge is a blind man, it can be -exasperating-
trying defend your choice of the Winner of the Art fair."
:P
