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Re: incorrect spam setups cause spool messes on forwarders

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven M. Bellovin)
Mon Dec 1 14:43:28 2003

From: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb@research.att.com>
To: Michael Loftis <mloftis@wgops.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 01 Dec 2003 12:23:29 MST."
             <10021859.1070281409@d216-220-25-60.dynip.modwest.com> 
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 14:42:50 -0500
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


In message <10021859.1070281409@d216-220-25-60.dynip.modwest.com>, Michael Loft
is writes:
>
>I personally haven't seen ANY validation, just an arbitrary block that's 
>been in place for over a month without cause, reason, or even any ability 
>to contact them. 

Right.  Assuming that the described validation scheme is, in fact, 
what's being used, you'd expect Verizon's mailer to retain and cache 
the validation.  That way, a single 450 can be turned into a 200 series
or a 550.

As Randy said, 450 means "there's a problem here that should be fixed 
soon; come back later".  If it doesn't change, it's not a 450.

		--Steve Bellovin, http://www.research.att.com/~smb



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