[65506] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IRU Contracts?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hank Nussbacher)
Mon Dec 1 01:40:29 2003
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 08:38:26 +0200
To: <deepak@ai.net>, "Nanog@Merit. Edu" <nanog@merit.edu>
From: Hank Nussbacher <hank@att.net.il>
In-Reply-To: <GPEOJKGHAMKFIOMAGMDIGEJPLAAC.deepak@ai.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
At 11:34 PM 30-11-03 -0500, Deepak Jain wrote:
After looking over numerous IRU contracts, I found one aspect lacking in
all of them that we needed to add - duration. IRU contracts that I saw did
not take into account the supplier going under or being bought out in
regards to transfer of ownership of the IRU. I have sent you privately the
language we used.
-Hank
>I am assuming this is on-topic, though the responses may not be. If there is
>interest, I will be glad to summarize the answers for the list.
>
>I have been testing a few aspects of the market for DF, and I am assuming
>that for those that are capable of paying for it (DF) to guys who can
>provide contracts that are enforceable beyond 90 days after signing, a lot
>more complexity can be cooked into agreements today (2003) than before
>(1999) -- moreover, a lot more is known about what can go wrong with IRUs
>now than when they were first being bought. However, I am not seeing a lot
>of the agreements themselves changing... So I was wondering... For my
>purposes, I am considering hundreds and thousands of thread-miles, but I am
>sure even for small intracity spans, some of these things matter.
>
>What terms do particular companies or does the community in general think
>need to be included above and beyond the standard IRU language most vendors
>are providing? Does anyone insist on fiber performance (beyond dB loss) for
>the entire life of the contract (if so, what other measures),
>maintenance/repair SLAs, mass-fusion performance on splices? Does anyone
>require lambda testing outside of 1550nm? Does anyone accept the payment
>terms proposed or do they take what they can get depending on the provider?
>
>I am guessing only about 3 people are going to want to hear the results of
>this, so private email responses may be best.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>DJ
