[65499] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Worm Bandwidth [was Re: Santa Fe city government computers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daniel Senie)
Fri Nov 28 18:47:22 2003
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:35:48 -0500
To: nanog@merit.edu
From: Daniel Senie <dts@senie.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0311281821310.18182-100000@clifden.donelan.c
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Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
At 06:24 PM 11/28/2003, Sean Donelan wrote:
>On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Petri Helenius wrote:
> > If you are an access provider, specially in the consumer space, you can
> > do many things to help the "Greater Internet" by keeping your own back
> > yard in good shape. In the transit business, you are expected to
> > deliver the bits regardless of the content so there the only viable
> > option is to drop packets where the source or destination addresses
> > don=B4t make sense.
>
>What is the difference between a transit provider and an access provider,
>specially in the consumer space? Why is a transit provider expected to
>deliver the bits, but the access provider isn't? Since the bulk of
>Internet access is actually provided by wholesale providers (e.g.
>AOL/Earthlink buy wholesale modem access from UUNET/Level3), who is
>the access provider and who is the transit provider?
And how do you handle the situation where a provider is both? UUNet, for=20
example, sells LOTS of T-1 lines to non-ISP businesses, and sells retail=20
dialup services to consumers. Sure they also sell wholesale bandwidth and=20
wholesale dialup services to ISPs, but it's not their whole business.
The problem isn't "someone else's problem" for anyone.=20