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RE: [Re: This may be stupid but.. ]

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Mon Nov 10 18:10:45 2003

Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:08:11 -0800
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <000e01c3a7d5$c0288720$6400000a@wglaptop>
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As someone who once had a CCIE (5465), and who has encountered many
certified individuals from various certifying organizations, in my
experience, certification proves that the person has the certificate
and little else.  It does not prove they are incompetent.  It certainly
does not prove they are competent.  I will say I have encountered more
MCSEs that were incompetent than almost any other certification.  I will
also say that I have yet to meet an MCSE+I that knows anything about
networking (unless I met the person and didn't know they were an MCSE+I).

Owen


--On Monday, November 10, 2003 16:58 -0500 "Wayne Gustavus (nanog)"=20
<nanog@wgustavus.com> wrote:

>
> Nothing like throwing the baby out with the bath water...
>
> One bad apple spoils the bunch..
>
> I could go on...
>
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> Wayne Gustavus
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On
>> Behalf Of Wesley Vaux
>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 3:24 PM
>> To: Matt Levine
>> Cc: Nanog List (E-mail)
>> Subject: RE: [Re: This may be stupid but.. ]
>>
>>
>>
>>  I once was in a class sitting beside a CCIE that asked me
>> what the command syntax was.  I have no faith in the certified.
>>
>



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