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Re: [arin-announce] IPv4 Address Space (fwd)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (E.B. Dreger)
Thu Oct 30 05:34:49 2003

Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:34:24 +0000 (GMT)
From: "E.B. Dreger" <eddy+public+spam@noc.everquick.net>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <3FA030BF.8020800@brightok.net>
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JB> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:27:27 -0600
JB> From: Jack Bates


JB> I think the point that was being made was that NAT allows the
JB> filtering of the box to be more idiot proof. Firewall rules
JB> tend to be complex, which is why mistakes *do* get made and
JB> systems still get compromised.  NAT interfaces and setups
JB> tend to be more simplistic, and the IP addresses of the
JB> device won't route publicly through the firewall or any
JB> unknown alternate routes.

NAT "security" is a byproduct of NAT's stateful filtering.  One
can accomplish the same effect with

	check-state
	allow ip any any recv internal0 keep-state
	deny ip any any

Such a default fw config would be equally idiot-proof with no IP
obfuscation.


Eddy
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