[64620] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: [arin-announce] IPv4 Address Space (fwd)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Wed Oct 29 10:45:15 2003
To: Dave Howe <DaveHowe@gmx.co.uk>
Cc: "Email List: nanog" <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:10:18 GMT."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:35:59 -0500
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:10:18 GMT, Dave Howe <DaveHowe@gmx.co.uk> said:
> but sucks if your cable or xDSL ISP decides NAT is the
> way to go. (usually followed by a "well, you shouldn't need two or more
> nodes there/want to run a server/care about SIP, a business should pay for
> a DEDICATED link" for a little three-man sales office in the backend of
> nowhere)
Or the road warrior case. If you send 3 engineers to Detroit and they end up
at the wrong hotel.....
> But regardless, all the workarounds are doing is trying to patch the fact
> that UDP dependent connections are not NAT friendly by special-casing (or
> app-layer proxying) particular instances of UDP in a way that doesn't drop
> dead TOO often....
People are continually managing to make bears dance, and are surprised when
said bears decide it's time to voice their opinions on the matter....
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