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Re: Need a DNS expert

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Andrew - Supernews)
Mon Oct 20 13:15:14 2003

To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: "Geo."'s message of "Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:56:24 -0400"
Date: 20 Oct 2003 18:13:30 +0100
From: "Andrew - Supernews" <andrew@supernews.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


>>>>> "Geo" == Geo  <georger@getinfo.net> writes:

 Geo> Got something really weird going on and I need a bit of help
 Geo> from someone who is really good with dns.

 Geo> Domain elby.ch

 Geo> seems to resolve from some DNS servers but not from others. Can
 Geo> you see anything that might break dns resolution for this
 Geo> domain?

Yes, you've got _way_ too many levels of referrals before any glue
records show up.

The chain looks something like this:

.ch servers return referral elby.ch -> ns{1,2}.elbyns.de with no glue.
.de servers return referral elbyns.de -> ns{1,2}.aixns.de with no glue.
.de servers return referral aixns.de -> ns0.ns0.de,ns2.ns2.de with no glue.
.de servers return referral ns0.de/ns2.de -> ns*.denoc.de with glue.

When I tried it with the squish.net dns checker (turn on "show
resolving of referrals" to see the awful details of the referral
chain) I got at least one query timeout, so the results were:

10.7% of queries will end in failure at 62.116.163.62 (ns2.ns2.de) -
failed to resolve ns2.elbyns.de due to 62.116.163.62 - failed to
resolve ns1.aixns.de due to 62.116.163.62 - query timed out

10.7% of queries will end in failure at 62.116.163.62 (ns2.ns2.de) -
failed to resolve ns1.elbyns.de due to 62.116.163.62 - failed to
resolve ns1.aixns.de due to 62.116.163.62 - query timed out

39.3% of queries will be returned by 62.116.130.76 (ns1.elbyns.de)
elby.ch.	86400	IN	A	213.130.59.30

39.3% of queries will be returned by 62.116.162.15 (ns2.elbyns.de)
elby.ch.	86400	IN	A	213.130.59.30

But the squish.net checker has no limit on referrals - many resolvers,
especially older BIND, will just time out chasing the referrals unless
it already has them cached.

-- 
Andrew, Supernews


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