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Re: IAB concerns against permanent deployment of edge-based filtering

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Sat Oct 18 15:38:21 2003

To: bmanning@karoshi.com
Cc: eric@roxanne.org (Eric Gauthier), nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:14:42 PDT."
             <200310181814.h9IIEg814892@karoshi.com> 
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 15:36:52 -0400
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:14:42 PDT, bmanning@karoshi.com said:

> > > There is a real danger that long-term continued blocking will lead
> > > to "everything on one port"
> 
> 	fair amount of handwaving there.

Question:  Why was RFC3093 published?  (Think(*) for a bit here...)

About a month later, there was a *major* flame-fest on the IETF list due to
this message:

http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg11918.html

Yes, the basic reason for this proposal was because many firewalls will pass HTTP
but not BEEP.

What major P2P applications have included a "run over port 80" option to let
themselves through firewalls?

It's not just handwaving.

(*) Remember - satire isn't funny if it isn't about something recognizable...

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