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Re: CCO/cisco.com issues.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Charles Sprickman)
Mon Oct 6 20:06:31 2003

Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 20:01:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: Charles Sprickman <spork@inch.com>
To: jlewis@lewis.org
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <3F81FE8B.59124C1C@cox.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu



> > First They Came for the IRC bots
> > and I did not speak out
> > because I did not run a bot.
> > Then They Came for the IRC servers
> > and I did not speak out
> > because I did not run an IRC server.
> > ...skip a few years...
> > Then They Came for the DNSBLs
> > and I did not speak out
> > because I did not run a DNSBL.

> > Anyone who doesn't think that's an operational issue, just wait until it
> > bites you on the ass.

Let's add a very important line:

"Then They Came for the OC-3 or smaller connections
and I did not speak out
because I run fat OC-12 - OC-48 pipes"

It's my guess that the "top providers" that ignore cries for help because
they can sink the traffic (and bill for it) without breaking a sweat will
one day find themselves without a plan and without a clue when the Kiddiez
come pounding down the door with something that can saturate their pipes
and bring a major customer down.  I hope we don't have to wait until that
time comes around to figure out how to cooperate.

> Now we have clear evidence that there are no less than three who
> understand the threat.

Heh.  Why things like this don't scare everyone on this list sh*tless is
beyond me.

If anyone ever sees garbage coming out of 8059, hit the abuse@ address or
peek at Jared's list for phone info.

Charles

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