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Re: CCO/cisco.com issues.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.)
Mon Oct 6 19:47:21 2003

Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 18:45:15 -0500
From: "Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr." <larrysheldon@cox.net>
To: jlewis@lewis.org
Cc: Allan Liska <allan@allan.org>, Kai Schlichting <kai@pac-rim.net>,
	nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


jlewis@lewis.org wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Allan Liska wrote:
> 
> > KS> The following well-remembered lines come to mind here, and excuse me if
> > KS> you hear a slight hysterical laughter from my direction:
> >
> > I don't know what your post has to do with the original topic, but if
> > you don't like the way NONOG is moderated, please feel free to start
> > your own Network Operators mailing list.
> 
> I'm only guessing here, but I think what he may have meant was:
> 
> First They Came for the IRC bots
> and I did not speak out
> because I did not run a bot.
> Then They Came for the IRC servers
> and I did not speak out
> because I did not run an IRC server.
> ...skip a few years...
> Then They Came for the DNSBLs
> and I did not speak out
> because I did not run a DNSBL.
> 
> Now that they've come for cisco, maybe law enforcement, network operators,
> and router vendors will all get their $h!t together and do something to
> put a stop to these DDoS attacks that have been going on in various forms
> for several years.
> 
> A handful of people (an assumption on my part) have the power /
> distributed bandwidth to bring just about any internet site/network to its
> knees using the distributed.net meets DoS tools they've created and
> distributed to thousands, perhaps millions of internet connected windows
> boxes.
> 
> Anyone who doesn't think that's an operational issue, just wait until it
> bites you on the ass.

Now we have clear evidence that there are no less than three who 
understand the threat.

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