[62998] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: williams spamhaus blacklist
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dr. Jeffrey Race)
Wed Sep 24 21:57:44 2003
From: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" <jrace@attglobal.net>
To: "Leo Bicknell" <bicknell@ufp.org>,
"nanog@merit.edu" <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 08:55:53 +0700
Reply-To: "Dr. Jeffrey Race" <jrace@attglobal.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:01:48 -0400, Leo Bicknell wrote:
>Blocking wcg's corporate mail servers is not the solution.
It is the ONLY solution that works, as shown many times including
the case just posted to this list about Sprint.
>Sure, it may get
>someone's attention at wcg, but it may also harm a lot of "innocent"
>communications, sales talking to clients, other wiltel customers
>requesting support, heck, the secretary ordering lunch to be
>delivered.
These people are also victims of bad corporate management and
they should complain to their managers, not to their fellow victims.
>
>There are laws against spam. If you have evidence, sue in civil
>court, or get a DA to go for it in criminal court.
There are no presently enforceable laws for this kind of corporate
abuse. The only thing that works is hitting the malafactors directly.
Regarding BLs: no one forces anyone to use them. They are used
because recipients don't want to get trash.
Those with a quiet moment who want to see a novel, amusing and detailed
ventilation of this issue may take a look at
<http://www.camblab.com/nugget/spam_03.pdf> (some details dated)
and
<http://www.camblab.com/misc/univ_std.txt> (work in progress)
I'd welcome any comments.
Jeffrey Race