[62936] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Another DNS blacklist is taken down
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joel Perez)
Wed Sep 24 13:52:31 2003
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:50:14 -0400
From: "Joel Perez" <jperez@numind.net>
To: <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
Great,
Just Great. Wasn't there a post a while back that listed what providers
are SPAM friendly? My fingers are getting tired trying to create ACL's
lists to block ranges of IP's without compromising my service. I wish
the power's up above would buy the right software to try and curb the
SPAM but that is not to be according to them.=20
So back to my ACL's I go!
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Joel Perez <jperez@ntera.net> | IP Engineer
http://www.ntera.net/ | Ntera
305.914.3412
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Justin Shore [mailto:listuser@numbnuts.net]
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:29 PM
>>To: nanog@merit.edu
>>Subject: Another DNS blacklist is taken down
>>
>>
>>I thought ya'll might be interested to hear that yet another DNS
blacklist
>>has been taken down out of fear of the DDoS attacks that took down
>>Osirusoft, Monkeys.com, and the OpenRBL. Blackholes.compu.net
suffered a
>>joe-job earlier this week. Apparently the joe-jobbing was enough to
>>convince some extremely ignorant mail admins that Compu.net is
spamming
>>and blocked mail from compu.net. Compu.net has also seen the effects
of
>>DDoS attacks on other DNS blacklist maintainers. They've decided that
the
>>risk to their actual business is too great and they are pulling the
plug
>>on their DNS blacklist before they come under the gun by spammers.
>>
>>http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=3Den&lr=3D&ie=3DUTF-8&oe=3DUTF-
>>8&selm=3D3f70e839%241%40dimaggio.newszilla.com
>>
>>Ron Guilmette, maintainer of the Monkeys.com blacklists has posted a
>>farewell from Monkeys.com to news.admin.net-abuse.email. Ron cites
the
>>total lack of interest in the attacks by both big network providers
and
>>law enforcement authorities as the ultimate reason he's pulling the
plug.
>>
>>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=3D%22Now+retired+from+spam+fighting%2=
2
&hl=3D
>>en&lr=3D&ie=3DUTF-8&oe=3DUTF-8&selm=3Dvn1lufn8h6r38%40corp.supernews.co=
m&rnum=3D
4
>>
>>It's truely a sad day for spam fighters everywhere.
>>
>>So, my question for NANOG is how does one go about attracting the
>>attention of law enforcement when your network is under attack? How
does
>>the target of such an attack get a large network provider who's
customers
>>are part of the attack to pay attention? Is media attention the only
way
>>to pressure a response from either group? These DDoS attacks have
>>received some attention in mainstream media:
>>
>>http://www.msnbc.com/news/959094.asp?0cv=3DTB10
>>http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2003/08/28/saboteurs_hit_sp
ams_
>>blockers
>>
>>Apparently it hasn't been enough. Legal remedies take too long and
are
>>cost prohibitive (unless you're the DoJ). Subpoenas and civil
lawsuits
>>take months if not years. Relief is needed in days if not hours.
>>
>>Justin
