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Re: Another DNS blacklist is taken down

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick)
Wed Sep 24 12:53:06 2003

Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:50:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Patrick <patrick@stealthgeeks.net>
To: Leo Bicknell <bicknell@ufp.org>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20030924164416.GA54961@ussenterprise.ufp.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Leo Bicknell wrote:

> In a message written on Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 11:28:39AM -0500, Justin Shore wrote:
> > So, my question for NANOG is how does one go about attracting the
> > attention of law enforcement when your network is under attack?  How does
> > the target of such an attack get a large network provider who's customers
> > are part of the attack to pay attention?  Is media attention the only way
> > to pressure a response from either group?  These DDoS attacks have
> > received some attention in mainstream media:
>
> People will pay attention as soon as there is money in black lists.
> ISP's are businesses.  If losing the customer is cheaper than helping
> them far too many will choose to lose the customer.  Many black
> lists don't pay the ISP at all, indeed they are offered as free
> services for the good of the community.  As a result they get the
> response that any freeloader would, none.

RBLs Sounds like a great application for P2P.


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