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Re: monkeys.dom UPL being DDOSed to death

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Petri Helenius)
Wed Sep 24 02:09:45 2003

Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:08:59 +0300
From: Petri Helenius <pete@he.iki.fi>
To: Dan Hollis <goemon@anime.net>
Cc: Joe St Sauver <JOE@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU>, jbates@brightok.net,
	nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0309231508440.10157-100000@sasami.anime.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


Dan Hollis wrote:

>
>
>the operator hosting the hijacked PC is guilty if they are notified and 
>refuse to take action. which seems to be all too common these days with 
>universities and colocation companies.
>
>  
>
In many cases they also are incompetent or incapable of taking action 
since there is hardly
any "Disconnecting abusers for dummies" books on the shelf.

Not that incompetence would work too well as defence, but you would have 
to take
it that far or have some way of getting the abusers off the network 
without waiting for
the slow and incompetent and deal with the consequences of mistakes later.

Pete



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