[6254] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: the promised text
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dima Volodin)
Fri Nov 22 12:37:53 1996
To: trest@atmnet.net (Mike Trest)
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 12:33:38 -0500 (EST)
Cc: dvv@sprint.net, trest@atmnet.net, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19961122171508.0072ddbc@atmnet.net> from "Mike Trest" at Nov 22, 96 09:15:08 am
From: dvv@sprint.net (Dima Volodin)
What's the bid deal about deterministic behaviour of routing technology for
voice service?
Dima
Mike Trest writes:
>
> Dima,
>
> Good observation. However, I did not miss Vadim's point. It is well
> stated. But I would like to see a clearer path to deterministic behaviour
> in routing technology before we use it for integrated voice service, as an
> example. "No worse than ATM" is not a good enough starting point.
>
> Indeed, today we use ATM to transport IP traffic and also multiple
> technologies including some non-ATM stuff like broadcast video/voice, laser
> disk playback, Video Conferencing, and ordinary T1 AMI/D4 PSTN voice
> service. I wonder, however, if an IP address (even at terabit speeds) will
> help to sort out which DS0 is going to which IXC. Likewise, we should never
> think that IP traffic will ever be limited to any specific L1/L2 technology.
> Because I can do these things with ATM today does not mean that better IP
> routing engines are not needed!
>
> I mean no disrespect to Vadim. I think is work is good. I actually hope we
> do see better IP routing technology. If the resultant product is
> deterministic at L3, ATMnet would probably be one of the first to sign up to
> give it a try.
>
> ..mike..
>
>
> At 11:37 AM 11/22/96 -0500, Dima Volodin wrote:
> >Mike Trest writes:
> >>
> >> Even though ATMnet has been delivering IP-over-ATM to commercial users
> >> longer than any other provider, we never claim that the Internet should
> >> exist *EXCLUSVELY* as ATM technology. Quite the contrary, we (and our
> >> customers) see the technical and economic power of ATM technology in the
> >> ability to support fully integrated services.
> >
> >It's either you missed another point or I invented this another point in my
> >mind - a large chunk of Vadim's paper is devoted to the topic of pure IP's
> >being no worse that ATM for "integrated" services.
> >
> >> Mike Trest, ATMNET Voice: 619 643-1805
> >
> >Dima
> >
> >
> Mike Trest, ATMNET Voice: 619 643-1805
> 5440 Morehouse Drive Fax: 619 643-1801
> San Diego, CA USA 92121 EMAIL: trest@ATMnet.net
>
>
