[6244] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: RWHOIS, SWIP, and proving ownership
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David R. Conrad)
Thu Nov 21 01:28:06 1996
To: Ehud Gavron <GAVRON@aces.com>
cc: nanog@merit.edu, davidc@apnic.net
reply-to: ire@apnic.net
In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 20 Nov 1996 20:58:02 MST."
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 14:22:10 +0900
From: "David R. Conrad" <davidc@apnic.net>
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Ehud,
I'm curious -- given the registries are required to conserve address
space, what would you suggest the registries do to attempt to insure
address space allocated is actually used?
Regards,
-drc
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>Consider this a side note to the preceding discussion.
>
>1. Most of our clients understand that their ''lease'' on network address
> space is at our whim, by contract for IP connectivity, and is subject
> to renumbering if WE assign them new space, if WE are assigned new space,
> or if they move elsewhere.
>
> Therefore they don't ask us to SWIP the nets nor do they care.
>
>2. RWHOIS doesn't run on any production operating system. I know Unix is
> in vogue, but since we do the 99.96% uptime schtick, we use operating
> systems that stay up (VMS). This means we can't run RWHOIS (even if we
> did want to, which if you read #1 above you'll see we don't.)
>
>3. We currently use almost all of a /18, two thirds of a /19, a few /22s,
> and some /24s. It would be easy to justify a /17 based on all this, but
> if someone wanted to be rigid about RWHOIS and SWIP, even a bunch of
> traceroutes aren't going to convince them.
>
>Back in THE GOOD OLD DAYS (tm), we said "Be flexible with what you accept,
>be rigid with what you send out." (Others made it sound better and put it
>in RFCs... D.C. for one.. :)
>
>Nowadays I see the motto has become "Be rigid in what you accept, and modify
>your templates as often as possible." This criticism applies equally to the
>RA IRR as it does to the InterNIC.
>
>Gee, and this started out as one sentence that went "We don't run RWHOIS, our
>clients don't want it, our operating system won't support it, and you better
>listen when we ask for a /17 ;)"
>
>Ehud
>
