[62025] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: list thoughts on "unsupported" hardware?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Austad, Jay)
Mon Sep 15 15:34:12 2003
From: "Austad, Jay" <JAustad@temgweb.com>
To: 'Ray Wong' <rayw@rayw.net>, nanog@merit.edu
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:33:28 -0500
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
I couldn't find anything that said the 7500 is end-of-life/support/etc...
This is all I found on their site regarding the 7500:
End-of-Sale/End-of-Life: FEIP2-DSW-2TX & FEIP2-DSW-2FX
09/Jul/2003
End of Sale/End of Life: SA-ENCRYPT Services Adapter
31/Mar/2003
End of Sales - VIP2-50, No. 1868
20/Aug/2002
End of Sales: Route Switch Processor 2, No. 1866
20/Aug/2002
End of Sales: SRPIP-OC12, No. 1867
20/Aug/2002
I know it doesn't answer your question, but it appears that the 7500 is
still on the list.
-jay
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ray Wong [mailto:rayw@rayw.net]
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 2:07 PM
> To: nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: list thoughts on "unsupported" hardware?
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>
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> I realize this isn't arguing about Windows patch mechanisms,
> but recently
> realized I've never answered this issue to my own
> satisfaction... How long
> do we keep upgrading and using network hardware once it's
> fallen off the
> support lists? The Cisco 7500 finally went off back in Feb
> of this year,
> as I recall. 3rd party upgrades, and used parts, are still
> readily available.
>
> (Actually, does anyone have suggestions on vendors for said
> upgrades and
> parts? I've noticed a lot more discounting than in the past,
> but usually
> from vendors I have no experience with).
>
> A client I've recently taken on happens to be relying on a
> 7500 for their
> border. In reality, their current use could fit on a
> 2621/2650, though they
> have been much larger in the past (there's a small pile of
> DS3 cards sitting
> on the shelf). They're still relying on a single provider
> for connectivity,
> etc.
>
> So, does anyone have any thoughts on how long we should be letting our
> poorer customers/employers live with products that are
> officially off the
> support lists? Clearly there will be (i.e. IOS) image
> support for quite some
> time. Is keeping (tested) spares around sufficient to
> justify actually
> spending some money to fit the newer/larger images?
> Newer/still current
> hardware seems much more a no-brainer, but advocating
> spending a thousand
> bucks to avoid spending 5x that on a more current fire-sale
> item is a little
> less clear, to me.
>
>
> --
>
> Ray Wong
> rayw@rayw.net
>
>