[61727] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: What do you want your ISP to block today?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Johannes Ullrich)
Wed Sep 3 16:38:29 2003
From: Johannes Ullrich <jullrich@euclidian.com>
Reply-To: jullrich@euclidian.com
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Cc: Vinny Abello <vinny@tellurian.com>,
Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <2147483647.1062594392@imac-en0.delong.sj.ca.us>
Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 16:27:04 -0400
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
> No. ISPs should not block ports unless they are listed in the AUP as
> non-permitted traffic or it is a necessary and temporary remedial action
> for a service-affecting problem.
I fully agree that ISPs should include the list of blocked ports in
their AUP. (somewhere in the paper it mentions the confusion caused by
uncoordinated filters).
> I still do not understand why a manufacturer is permitted to release a
> product which causes such harm, and, rather than hold that manufacturer
> liable, so many people feel that the entire rest of the world should
> change to accommodate that one manufacturer's deficiencies
But should the end user pay for the faults? They already pay
for the software and the Internet connection. How many ISPs on this list
provide support for non-MSFT operating systems? Does the free CD you
hand out run on anything but Windows?
90% + of internet users do use MSFT Windows. So I don't think you have a
choice other than to "live with it".
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