[61522] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Fun new policy at AOL
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Vivien M.)
Fri Aug 29 16:11:45 2003
From: "Vivien M." <vivienm@dyndns.org>
To: "'JC Dill'" <nanog@vo.cnchost.com>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 16:08:52 -0400
In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.10.0.20030829124105.0550b5b0@127.0.0.1>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On=20
> Behalf Of JC Dill
> Sent: August 29, 2003 3:43 PM
> To: nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: RE: Fun new policy at AOL
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> At 12:32 PM 8/29/2003, Vivien M. wrote:
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> > > Time to switch to SMTP AUTH and use the same relay always.
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> >And what do you do if you're not the admin for the relay? And what=20
> >about if the admin tells you "This is why we installed some webmail=20
> >package. Use that instead."?
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> Either the webmail solution meets your needs, or you need to=20
> obtain service=20
> from a company that offers a solution that meets your needs. =20
> Why is this=20
> so hard to understand?
Because you're not understanding the issue... If you get an email =
account
from your employer/educational institution/etc and have to access it =
from
home and send mail from it, you can't "obtain service from a company =
that
offers a solution that meets your needs." If you can't convince your =
admins
(and good luck if you don't work in the IT department) that they need to =
set
up SMTP AUTH, then you are screwed... Get used to dialing into your
employer/educational institution/etc's network to do email, simply to =
comply
with these things, or hello webmail. And how will you explain to people =
who
quite happily have their POP3 clients set up to get mail from their =
work's
POP3 server, and SMTP to their local ISP that suddenly they can't do it =
that
way anymore?
If this solution had been implemented 5 years ago instead of the "no =
third
party relays" system now in place, I wouldn't be opposed to it... But =
the
issue is that the "use the local SMTP server to send" model is the main =
one
deployed in the field today, and if you start staying NOW that mail must =
be
relayed through a domain's particular SMTP server and that server =
doesn't
support SMTP AUTH relaying, you're now screwed...=20
Vivien
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Vivien M.
vivienm@dyndns.org
Assistant System Administrator
Dynamic DNS Network Services
http://www.dyndns.org/=20
