[61373] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Fun new policy at AOL
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew Crocker)
Thu Aug 28 12:14:36 2003
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:04:09 -0400
Cc: Roland Perry <nanog@internetpolicyagency.com>, nanog@merit.edu
To: Petri Helenius <pete@he.iki.fi>
From: Matthew Crocker <matthew@crocker.com>
In-Reply-To: <3F4E2053.3010601@he.iki.fi>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
On Thursday, August 28, 2003, at 11:31 AM, Petri Helenius wrote:
> Matthew Crocker wrote:
>
>>
>> SMTP & DNS should be run through the servers provided by the ISP for=20=
>> the exact purpose. There is no valid reason for a dialup customer to=20=
>> go direct to root-servers.net and there is no reason why a dialup=20
>> user should be sending mail directly to AOL, or any mail server for=20=
>> that matter (besides their host ISP)
>>
>
> ...and there is no reason for dialup customer to have direct access to=20=
> any other port either,
> they=B4ll just use the www-proxy and other ALG services from the ISP ?
>
> This is a self-solving problem.
>
Technically no, There is no reason for a customer to have direct=20
access to the net so long as the ISP can provide appropriate proxies=20
for the services required.
It gets complex, it gets hard to manage but it can be done. There is a=20=
stigma against proxing because of the early days when stale content was=20=
all over the place. Does a dynamically assigned dialup/DSL user even=20
need a valid routable IP? For games? Maybe games should be more NAT=20=
friendly.
We do remove the filters for customers that have a valid need and show=20=
that they have a clue out it all works.
-Matt
