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Re: [Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses]

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joshua Sahala)
Mon Aug 25 21:22:08 2003

Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:21:35 -0400
From: Joshua Sahala <joshua.ej.smith@usa.net>
To: Joe Abley <jabley@isc.org>, Haesu <haesu@towardex.com>
Cc: Danny McPherson <danny@tcb.net>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


Joe Abley <jabley@isc.org> wrote:
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> .. if everybody used the IRR to build explicit filters everywhere, if =

> everybody kept their objects in the IRR up-to-date, and if there was =

> some appropriate authorisation scheme in place to allow you to trust =

> the data in the IRR implicitly, it'd be a perfect world.

not perfect, you would still need to filter at the customer ingress,
making sure that they weren't spoofing a 'properly registered route =

object' that wasn't part of the aup that they had signed....they did
sign an aup right???

> The IRR is currently a reasonable tool to use to avoid listening to =

> routes which are advertised by mistake from peers who populate the IRR =

> accurately. It's not a reasonable tool for avoiding maliciously bogus =

> routes, since sticking maliciously bogus information in the IRR is =

> trivial.

trivial yes, but it would be nice if there was at least a minimal effort
to filter unregistered route objects, especially on transit from certain
regions of the world....we can deal with the registration issue =

separately.

/joshua
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> Joe
> =

> =




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