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Re: Wake Up! (was: spamspamspam)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Rhett)
Wed Nov 13 09:56:11 1996

To: dgs@us.net (David Stoddard)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:44:59 -0800 (PST)
From: "Joe Rhett" <joe@Navigist.Com>
In-Reply-To: <199611121640.LAA07696@us.net> from "David Stoddard" at Nov 12, 96 11:40:18 am

 
> 	So, as a "responsible" ISP, you advocate denial of service attacks?
> 	You are either incredibly naive or intensely stupid to advocate
> 	that position.  Is that how you want people to deal with you when
		..		...		..		..
> 	have wiped the abuser out of your system.  But in the event someone
> 	decides to mail the source to Linux 1000 times to your server,
> 	copying abuse, root, postmaster, and support, they kill off your
> 	entire site, denying thousands of innocent users Internet access.
> 	The number of hours I have wasted over the past four years chasing
> 	down hackers and mail bombers has been a real pain.  I have ZERO
> 	tolerance for this behavior.
 
If your systems are so badly configured that a mail bomb attack denies
your users access, then you don't qualify as a "responsible ISP"
yourself. In fact, you qualify under both "naive" and "intensely
stupid".

I don't agree with mailbombing, but it sounds like you are ripping your
clients off, since you obviously don't know to configure a system.


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