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Re: Why doesn't BGP...

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daryn D. Fisher)
Mon Nov 11 15:31:20 1996

From: "Daryn D. Fisher" <oz@thoughtport.net>
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 96 13:17:44 -0700
To: nanog@merit.edu
Reply-To: oz@tpa.net



Is this really a discussion for this list-server?

I don't know about all of you, but I don't have the time to  
continually read a re-hash of age-old discussion.


Peter Lothberg <roll@Stupi.SE>  wrote:

>On the radio1::
>                "101 north is congested, take 280 instead"
>
>Guess what hapens 5 minutes laster;
>On the radio2::
>                "280 north is congested, take 101 instead"

>goto on the radio1

Goto the theory of control systems :)

This is a textbook case of a system with too strong negative
feedback loop.

There are two ways to deal with that -- reduce the feedback
(say, make the announcement in a barely intelligible speech,
so only 1/3rd of drivers will get it :),  or increase inertia
of the system (by posting 10MPH speed limit :), so announcements
can come fast enough to compensate each other.

Seriously, the load-sensitive traffic management _can_ be done,
but to do it you a) need full knowledge of the load patterns,
plus some historical data, and b) have a way to control system
in steps less drastic than rerouting an entire flow.

Can't be done with ciscos, or any existing routers...

--vadim

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