[60839] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Did Sean Gorman's maps show the cascading vulnerability in Ohio?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric A. Hall)
Mon Aug 18 00:37:24 2003
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 23:35:39 -0500
From: "Eric A. Hall" <ehall@ehsco.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0308172007550.30641-100000@tarpit.cybermesa.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
on 8/17/2003 9:09 PM hackerwacker@tarpit.cybermesa.com wrote:
> Org A makes a killing. Given that the players were producers, buyers
> and sellers of the same product this creates no incentaive to build out
> additional capasity. Quite different from say, Hog futures, were the
> supply side and demand side are not the same person. According the the
> NPR report I heard on this, the money to be made here is huge provided
> there was just enough power or not quite enough. So there were not
> market checks and ballances. having additional capasity on hand, in
> this system, drives down price in a futures market.
Capacity isn't the problem. The problem is that there aren't enough lines
between the providers and consumers to carry the current volume.
> So back on Sean's question, maps did not divulge this; at least not the
> primary cause. I see the primary cause as economic. It seems to me we
> are seeking a mechanical cause instead of looking at the fauly business
> model that allowed this to happen.
No sorry. The grid is a national problem and has been stabbed at several
times, but different special interests always move to keep the necessary
work from being done.
LULU -- Locally Undesirable Land Use
NIMBY -- Not In My Backyard
BANANA -- Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anyone
NOPE -- Nowhere on Planet Earth
Another more-recent camp are those who see everything as a move by The Man
and Mr. Big which must be stopped.
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Eric A. Hall http://www.ehsco.com/
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