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Re: East Coast outage?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Haesu)
Fri Aug 15 12:27:35 2003

Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 12:17:12 -0400
From: Haesu <haesu@towardex.com>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <OFE94FE974.CBC24C02-ON80256D83.0056B503-80256D83.00577545@radianz.com>
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> And if we extrapolate that lesson to IP networks it implies that any
> medium to large sized organization should do their own BGP peering
> and multihome to 3 or more upstream network providers. On the other
> hand, if you understand why electrical networks shed load and develop
> their cascading failures, you might see some parallels between "load"
> and the propagation of BGP announcements which are worrying.

Makes remember the days of AS7007... AS numbers are very much like power grids..

> 
> Perhaps we should start working on a hierarchical routing system in
> which the concept of a "global routing table" cannot develop. Perhaps
> announcements and withdraws should have a TTL so that they never 
> propogate very far from their source AS?

And how would global uniqueness and reachability of a route be done? Dampening
to some extent quite helps a lot..

-hc

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