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Re: North America not interested in IP V6

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Scott Francis)
Fri Aug 1 17:15:34 2003

Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 14:12:09 -0700
From: Scott Francis <darkuncle@darkuncle.net>
To: "McBurnett, Jim" <jmcburnett@msmgmt.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
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On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 08:21:52AM -0400, jmcburnett@msmgmt.com said:
> Jack Bates Wrote:
>=20
> >In the US, the pipe is limited in any number of ways in attempts to=20
> >limit how many people share their broadband with their neighbor at a=20
> >reduced rate.
> >
> >Another issue is that handing out IP addresses to the home at this point=
=20
> >is foolish. User's, in general, can't protect themselves.
>=20
> EXACTLY-- I wish there was some kind of regulatory something or other
> that made a cable/dsl router mandatory...
> HMMM -- Wonder is Lieberman would sponsor a bill?
> ;)

Unfortunately, firewalls and NAT don't protect against the single biggest
class of vulnerabilities at the moment - application holes. Put a stock
Windows box behind a firewall, and the average user will probably have it
compromised in less than a day through either an Outlook variant, MSIE or o=
ne
of the other Windows "features". Microsoft decided to trade security for
bells and whistles long ago, and we are all paying for it now. I wonder if
the inevitable DCOM worm will finally be enough to get a class-action lawsu=
it
started ...

Right now, I'd settle for simply removing HTML capabilities from email
clients. Removing email worms and viruses would eliminate a _huge_ chunk of
wasted bandwidth and much of the administrative hassle of operating an SMTP
server.

*sigh*
--=20
Scott Francis || darkuncle (at) darkuncle (dot) net
      illum oportet crescere me autem minui

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