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Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joel Jaeggli)
Thu Jul 31 15:22:24 2003

Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:21:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja@darkwing.uoregon.edu>
To: Omachonu Ogali <missnglnk@informationwave.net>
Cc: Petri Helenius <pete@he.iki.fi>, <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <20030731190132.GA29468@dipole.informationwave.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Omachonu Ogali wrote:

> 
> > So by telling people to shut up you expect to make the world more secure? Right :)
> 
> No, but merely talking about the how much the vendor sucks doesn't
> make them suck any less nor the users suck any more.

In some cultures shame is a powerful motivation to not behave like a 
jackass. In the US it doesn't seem to induce people to not cut corners on 
software development or lie to customers and shareholders. I find that 
unfortunate.

joelja 

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