[60078] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: North America not interested in IP V6
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Irwin Lazar)
Thu Jul 31 13:03:07 2003
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:02:14 -0600
From: "Irwin Lazar" <ILazar@burtongroup.com>
To: <nanog@merit.edu>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michel Py [mailto:michel@arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us]
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:16 PM
> To: Jeroen Massar
> Cc: nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: RE: North America not interested in IP V6
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> > Jeroen Massar wrote:
> > It has a timeline (slides 47-50) showing the US falling behind
> > for at least 3 years... come on US show what you are good for :)
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> Show me where there is money to make with IPv6 first :-)=20
> There are some
> exceptions, but here v6 is somehow like ISDN: I Still Don't Need.
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> Michel.
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Christian Huitema of Microsoft presented on IPv6 at our Catalyst =
conference last month. He noted that Microsoft had a very difficult =
time creating xBox live due to issues with IPv4/NAT, which is one of the =
reasons they are pushing for IPv6 as the basis for future =
collaborative/peer-to-peer applications (for example, 3degrees). I =
believe Sony is also IPv6 enabling their products for the same reason.
For these services to truly scale you've got be able to have true =
peer-to-peer computing. Right now, I'm not able to directly connect to =
my neighbor's computer to play a game if we are both on home LANs. I'm =
not able to directly connect to my PC at home when I'm on the road. I =
can't accept incoming phone calls to my netmeeting client without static =
configuration of my NAT gateway (same for an IP softphone). It would be =
a configuration nightmare to get four Vonage phones each with their own =
phone number. Christian provided a wonderful demonstration of a future =
interactive video application that would be difficult to scale if =
proxy/NAT services got in the way. =20
There are lots of things that just don't work, and lots of opportunities =
for making money with IPv6. My own personal opinion is that over the =
next 5-10 year everything will come out of the box with IPv6 =
capabilities, making it fairly straightforward to turn on. I doubt =
we'll see much acceptance in the enterprise space before then, but there =
are significant opportunities to bring additional services into the home =
and serve those on home networks if we can eliminate NAT.
As one person noted in response to Christian's speech. If there is no =
addressing shortage, why do I have to pay $75 a month for a DSL =
connection with a static IP address when a floating IP address only =
costs me $40 per month?
Just my .02c
irwin
