[60053] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Is there a technical solution to SPAM?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Vixie)
Wed Jul 30 21:23:49 2003
To: nanog@merit.edu
From: Paul Vixie <vixie@vix.com>
Date: 31 Jul 2003 01:23:14 +0000
In-Reply-To: <15627165231.20030730180256@brandenburg.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
> Spammers are like roaches. They are here to stay. They are aggressive.
> They adapt.
spam is a drug, and spammers will do anything, anything at all, for a fix.
> We need to respond with a variety of mechanisms, preferably coordinated
> to maximize the aggregate effect.
i still disagree. we need to call smtp a total loss and start over, from
the basic question: how can mutual consent be prerequisite to communication?
the difference between spam and ddos is a matter of statefulness -- but the
motives for sending it are essentially the same: asymmetric benefit to the
sender, and without consent of the recipients.
watching the growth of the anti-ddos and anti-spam industries makes the
internet look like a grade school science fair project run amok.
--
Paul Vixie
