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Re: WANTED: ISPs with DDoS defense solutions

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Tancsa)
Wed Jul 30 14:42:29 2003

Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:43:16 -0400
To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net>
In-Reply-To: <20030730145817.GN26798@puck.nether.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


At 10:58 AM 30/07/2003 -0400, Jared Mauch wrote:

>         If someone abuses the PSTN, or other networks they eventually
>will get their service terminated.  If people abuse their access by
>launching DoS attacks, we need to catch them and get their access

Gee, wouldnt that be nice.  Having personally dealt with one that had ~ 500 
hosts involved on several dozen networks, I can confirm that of all the 
repeated pleas for help to said networks to track down the controlling 
party, I had a grand total of ONE (yes, 1 as in one above zero) who 
actually responded with a response beyond the auto-responders.... And that 
was to let me know that the user in question had already formatted their 
hard drive before the admin could see what was on the machine and who might 
have been controlling the machine.

It took several _weeks_ for all the attacking hosts to be killed off with 
several reminder messages to various networks.  So I dont hold much 
optimism for actually tracking down the actual attacker.

         ---Mike

>terminated.  It's a bit harder to trace than PSTN (or other netowrks)
>but I feel of value to do so.
>
>         - Jared
>
>--
>Jared Mauch  | pgp key available via finger from jared@puck.nether.net
>clue++;      | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/  My statements are only mine.


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