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Re: Its not just Spam and DDOS anymore (was Re: OT: Re: User

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick)
Mon Jul 28 00:23:43 2003

Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 21:23:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Patrick <patrick@stealthgeeks.net>
To: Paul Vixie <paul@vix.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20030728034757.1767113948@sa.vix.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Paul Vixie wrote:

> so while i think you mean "one of the reasons computers are subtracting
> from rather than adding to the average user's privacy is because the
> average user doesn't want to perform the difficult acts of mental focus
> and usage discipline that would be required by such a privacy benefit".
> and i agree.  however, the bigger reason is that privacy is not a benefit
> in the eyes of the people who are truly in control of the world's computers.
> so, if it's going to happen, it's going to have to be a grass roots thing.

I agree 100%. When I refer to "people in control", I'm not speaking of end
users generally(unless you happen to be a user that wrote and/or
audited their own OS and every piece of code that runs on their boxes,)
but rather the programmers, and those who write their paychecks(where
applicable.)


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