[59544] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Mark Allman: Internet measurement: what next?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matt Levine)
Tue Jul 8 11:38:43 2003
In-Reply-To: <3F0A4790.2070301@brightok.net>
Cc: "E.B. Dreger" <eddy+public+spam@noc.everquick.net>,
nanog@merit.edu
From: Matt Levine <matt@deliver3.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 11:38:07 -0400
To: Jack Bates <jbates@brightok.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
On Tuesday, July 8, 2003, at 12:24AM, Jack Bates wrote:
>
> E.B. Dreger wrote:
> SL> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 19:47:53 +0100
> SL> From: Simon Lockhart
>
>
> SL> As predominantly a content hoster, I'd love to know more about the
> path
> SL> between my servers and the end user. Stuff like how much bandwidth
> is
> SL> available (or, potentially available, to remove the congestion
> issue),
> SL> in real time (i.e. as fast as PMTUD works). Really stuff so I can
> decide
>
> It would be tricky, but I've heard of using javascript (not applicable
> with all EU's of course) to calculate the throughput (similar to
> various bandwidth testing pages) and set the results in a hidden field
> which the user would then submit in a form. Something to ponder when
> designing your various forms.
>
> Of course, a better method would be to ask your visitors to provide
> the information by running an applet which could feed you a lot of b/w
> and latency information. Total capacity would be a little more
> difficult and various theories used to calculate it blind don't work
> from dialups and are questionable on broadband.
>
> With the number of people that play with SETI and other distributed
> systems, I was thinking it'd be interesting to build a 'net monitor
> based on the same premise, pulling latency information peer to peer as
> well as building path maps using the multiple views. While we have
> this to some degree, 1M 'doze boxes would provide a lot more granular
> detail. Overall performance through certain paths could also be
> determined.
Gomez seems to be trying to do this, with a monetary incentive:
http://www.porivo.com/peernetwork/jsp/index.jsp
>
>
> -Jack
>
>
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Matt Levine <matt@deliver3.com>
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