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Re: AGIS/DIGEX

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alan Hannan)
Wed Oct 30 09:29:34 1996

To: neil@easynet.net
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 08:26:58 -0600 (CST)
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <199610300922.JAA03996@NetBSD.noc.EASYNET.NET> from "Neil J. McRae" at Oct 30, 96 09:22:42 am
From: alan@mindvision.com (Alan Hannan)
Reply-To: alan@mindvision.com (Alan Hannan)


  Neil,

  You are assuming that the goal of all internet service providers
  is to have the best connectivity possible, without respect for
  cost, administrative overhead, or market strategy.

  If X is really really big, and Y is really really small, then
  perhaps it would benefit X to have Y as a paying customer instead
  of as a peer.

  The word peer implies equals, as it has so long been repeated.

  If provider X is missing 0.01% of the market share, and provider Y
  is missing 20% of the market share, who will be more upset, I
  ask..

  -alan

> On Tue, 29 Oct 1996 21:38:36 -0800 (PST) 
>  Robert Bowman <rob@elite.exodus.net> alleged:
> 
> > The point was not who did what to whom.  The point was bending policies due
> > to certain circumstances and forced peering due to these.
> > I do recall you having transit via geonet for a while however on the network 
> in
> > question.  Same issue, on a much smaller scale, than AGIS/Digex situation.
> > I agree with taking this offline, and discussing the "issue" rather than the
> > particular situation between our networks.
> > 
> 
> It seems a bit insane that people are required to be at N peering points for
> provider x to peer with provider y. If provider x and y can't reach each
> but are both at a peering point then surely thats a good enough reason
> to peer?
> 
> Regards,
> Neil.
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> 


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