[59304] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: ISPs are asked to block yet another port
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher L. Morrow)
Tue Jun 24 10:29:16 2003
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:28:43 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Christopher L. Morrow" <chris@UU.NET>
To: Paul Vixie <vixie@vix.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <g3y8zrnbp4.fsf@sa.vix.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Paul Vixie wrote:
>
> > > Security is a lifestyle.
> >
> > People laugh when I say this, do they laugh when you say it?
>
> you have to turn it around, "insecurity is a lifestyle", before people
> will skip the polite (because they think you're joking and it isn't
> funny) or nervous (because they think you're paranoid) laughter.
I'll attempt this in the future :) Though normally I ascribe the laughter
to my height... not my paranoia :)
>
> lately i've been thinking about trust and privacy and confidence, and
> it's really icky how the more digital communications tools we get the
> less right to control our information experience we have. e-mail is
> among several things which hasn't further liberated any individuals but
> which quite a few large companies consider a great boon -- precisely
> because they can shift costs down into the noise level and stop
> considering the desireability or usefulness of their outbound messaging.
> but it's not just e-mail, it's on my phone and on my fax machine and
> on my SMS PDA and oh what a mess.
>
> trustlessness is a lifestyle.
> --
> Paul Vixie
>