[58739] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: .mil domain
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Richard Irving)
Fri May 30 14:48:11 2003
Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 13:45:09 -0500
From: Richard Irving <rirving@onecall.net>
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Cc: John Payne <john@sackheads.org>,
Steve Waddington <stevew@onet.com.au>,
"nanog@merit.edu" <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
Precedent, Randy, Precedent !
UUnet and few others a long time ago had a differing definition of
"peering" that most of us thought, at the time...
But were so BIG, we accepted their routes, anyway.
* shrug *
A secret black list is a real bugger if:
No one is allowed to mention it exists.
If you get on it, there is now way off, no "right of redress".
No one can -tell- you you are on it.
No one can tell you if you -aren't-.....
And if you -somehow- figure out your on it,
they can't admit it,
or the -reason- you are on it,
or take you off even if they wanted.
Any and all of the above.
On a lighter note, the US Senate recently
unsealed the American McCarthy Hearing records.
:O :* :}
Randy Bush wrote:
>>In recent times, a lot of .mil have thrown up a whole bunch of null routes
>>to large sections of international address space. Good luck getting them
>>removed
>
>
> as this means they have a different definition of the internet than
> the one to which i, and i suspect others, are used, why should i and
> others accept their routes?
>
> randy
>