[58540] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Wasted netspace (recovering)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Iljitsch van Beijnum)
Mon May 19 16:21:43 2003
Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 22:20:16 +0200
Cc: listuser@numbnuts.net, nanog@merit.edu
To: william@elan.net
From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0305181413160.16175-100000@sokol.elan.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
On zondag, mei 18, 2003, at 23:28 Europe/Amsterdam, william@elan.net
wrote:
> Discussion on changing policies allowing to recover wasted ip space
> should be done on proper ARIN mailing list - ppml@arin.net
Why? It is well above the median off-topicness here.
> If you're not subscribed, I can repost your message there, but I can
> tell
> you right now this will not be supported - nobody wants to have to
> rejustify a block (even after 5 years) and even worse is that ARIN for
> legal and other reasons is not touching old ip space
Real fair to people who really need addresses... Even if the RIRs don't
want to flat-out revoke the allocations there is plenty they can do to
encourage people to give back their large blocks that are presumably
underused. One way would be to not allow ISPs to assign even a single
new address to those organizations. Another would be to charge a yearly
per-address fee. Make it 6 cents per address: $15 for a /24, $4000 for
a /16 and $1,000,000 for a /8. That'll teach them.
On the other hand, why bother when there are still 1.5 billion (40% of
the usable IPv4 address space) unallocated by IANA? And the current
growth rate seems fairly stable at around 65 million per year being
allocated to the RIRs. That should give us plenty of time to adopt IPv6.
