[58431] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Direct allocations solutions
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daniel Golding)
Tue May 13 15:38:00 2003
Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 14:37:00 -0500 (CDT)
From: Daniel Golding <dgold@FDFNet.Net>
To: =?X-UNKNOWN?B?oKAgoA==?= <wilsonuti@hotmail.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <BAY1-F16yLahVRaWhrk00013f1f@hotmail.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
You may want to look through the archives. This has been discusses at some
length in the past year or two.
You best bet: come to the ARIN meeting and make your case for a change in
policy.
- Dan
On Tue, 13 May 2003, =A0=A0 =A0 wrote:
>
> I would like to hear the opinion of the group on solutions for the ARIN
> minimum /20 justification. In my opinion IP growth and the demand for dir=
ect
> allocations conflict each other.
>
> My small business has a minimal number of hosts however that is no reason=
I
> shouldn't provide the highest level of service for myself and my customer=
s,
> specifically solutions for single points of failure. Upon multi-homing I
> wished to purchase IP's directly from ARIN to minimize the impact I might
> experience if my primary provider (which controls my IP's) might go under=
,
> or for any other reason become unable to provide service. I was obviously
> unable to _truthfully_ justify so I slowly made an attempt to increase my
> real host count by no longer making a best effort to minimize my IP usage=
=2E I
> am a strong believe in helping for a cause, however without lying, cheati=
ng,
> or stealing how do multi-homed networks with only /22 utilization obtain =
the
> benefits of a direct allocation? I partially understand ARIN's reasonin=
g
> and policies for not providing smaller blocks, and have been reading abou=
t
> portable blocks, however its obviously been a long standing problem for
> others in my position to find a solution without faking/inflating
> justifications.
>
> My primary solution is the idea of sharing a /20 with another individual =
in
> my similar position. This obviously has faults, however I believe it is a=
n
> increased safety net from my current situation. Are there are rules/polic=
ies
> that would prohibit this? If not, why have I not seen "IP
> Brokers/Resellers"?
>
> To conclude, there has been a lot of talk on several mailing lists about
> quality vs. quantity of bandwidth, I personally am hosted on cogent which
> has provided the service I expected (taking into account the price), howe=
ver
> the financial situation of several ISP's is critical, which only emphasiz=
es
> the overall demand of stable IP blocks.
>
> If the thread concludes IP blocks can be shared, I hope to start some typ=
e
> of IP broker mailing list or similar, to solve this problem for others. I=
f
> anyone is interested in this or sharing an IP block please contact me
> off-list.
>
> Also, I would be interested to hear what ARIN has to say as I honestly ha=
ve
> not contacted them about this yet, and unfortunately decided to get the
> response from the public first.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Matt
>
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