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Re: DMCA Violation?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Thu May 8 10:37:22 2003

To: "Christopher J. Wolff" <chris@bblabs.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 08 May 2003 06:29:25 PDT."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 10:32:29 -0400
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


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On Thu, 08 May 2003 06:29:25 PDT, "Christopher J. Wolff" <chris@bblabs.co=
m>  said:

> Has anyone seen a copy of the following email?  Furthermore, has it bee=
n
> determined which ISP services create a legal or equitable liability for=

> the ISP?  God help us if providing transport to an FTP site counts as
> one of the offending services.  I guess it's time to turn on NBAR at th=
e
> edge routers.

Congrats.  You're the recipient of a "512 takedown notice".  (There exist=
 ISP's
that haven't gotten one before? I'm amazed..;)

(Note - IANAL, what follows is my understanding of what the law says.  If=

you're worried, get competent legal advice as well).

We get about 250 of these a year.  The MPAA and RIAA notices read almost
identically.  17 USC 512 is pretty clear about the ISP 'safe harbor' and =
what
you have to do to keep it - basically, you as an ISP do *NOT* have to wor=
ry
about content that happens to be on or go through your servers as a resul=
t of
your user's actions *IF* you take action when you *do* receive an infring=
ment
notice (one of the *good* things about the DMCA, incidentally - fielding =
250
complaints a year is a lot easier than filtering an OC12 for content and
worrying if you miss something).

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/512.html is the full text - it's
actually fairly readable.

All you have to do is make the infringing material not accessible - and
17 USC 512 is *very* non-specific as to *how* you do it.  You can nuke th=
e
file, you can change the permissions, you can make the user remove it - y=
our
call.  You just have to make it inaccessible, and if you have a repeat
violator, you need to have a policy that allows you to terminate them.
They even don't specify a time frame other than "expeditiously", so as
long as you aren't dragging your feet, you're probably OK.

Our standard procedure for first-time offenders is to track down the user=
 who
has/had the IP address in question, and e-mail them a notice that basical=
ly
says "Take it down by COB today, and notify us you've done so, or your ac=
cess
will be terminated".

As far as "Big Brother" goes,  17 USC 512 is *NOT* the big problem in the=
 DMCA
(in fact, I'd say that 17 USC 512 is reasonably good legislation - it giv=
es
the ISP a safe harbor, gives the copyright owners a clear path of action,=

and 17 USC 512 (f) and (g) talk about what happens if the MPAA/RIAA/whate=
ver
make a mistake).

If  you want an example of *bad* legislation in the DMCA, go read 17 USC =
1201
(b)(1)(A) - the infamous "circumvention clause".  The problem is that it
prohibits you from gaining access to information you could otherwise obta=
in
under "fair use" (you've paid for the DVD, but you're not allowed to desc=
ramble
it so you can actually *USE* it, for example).



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