[57960] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen J. Wilcox)
Mon Apr 28 18:31:38 2003
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 23:28:51 +0100 (BST)
From: "Stephen J. Wilcox" <steve@telecomplete.co.uk>
To: Daniel Senie <dts@senie.com>
Cc: "Temkin, David" <temkin@sig.com>,
'Stephen Sprunk' <stephen@sprunk.org>,
Daniel Golding <dgold@fdfnet.net>, Kai Schlichting <kai@pac-rim.net>,
North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20030428181405.02b961f0@mail.amaranth.net>
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On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Daniel Senie wrote:
>
> At 06:08 PM 4/28/2003, Temkin, David wrote:
>
> >And something else a lot of people tend to forget - just because space isn't
> >in the tables doesn't mean it's not in use.
> >
> >There are companies that connect to thousands of other companies (see the
> >financial markets) that require unique addressing between companies with
> >non-colliding address ranges. 10.x.x.x doesn't quite cut it.
>
> Which gets us back to a very basic issue. Are the RIRs, and ARIN for that
> matter handing out numbers for use on the public Internet, or are they
> handing out numbers for use with the Internet Protocol?
>
> Use of the Internet Protocol extends far beyond the public, routable
> Internet. Such use is fair, reasonable and from the earliest days was not
> only permitted, but encouraged. Companies are able to register well known
Right, but "the early days"? You have read RFC1918 havent you?
> port numbers even if the applications associated are never used on the
> public Internet. Is that sensible? I'd argue it is. Addresses are just one
Who's to say they wont be ever be used on the Internet? Do you have an example
of such an application that has never been seen on the Internet?
Steve
> more data item used by the Internet Protocol.
>
> Dan
>
>
