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RE: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re:

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daniel Senie)
Mon Apr 28 18:24:11 2003

Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 18:19:35 -0400
To: "Temkin, David" <temkin@sig.com>,
	"'Stephen Sprunk'" <stephen@sprunk.org>,
	Daniel Golding <dgold@fdfnet.net>, Kai Schlichting <kai@pac-rim.net>
From: Daniel Senie <dts@senie.com>
Cc: North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes <nanog@merit.edu>
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At 06:08 PM 4/28/2003, Temkin, David wrote:

>And something else a lot of people tend to forget - just because space isn't
>in the tables doesn't mean it's not in use.
>
>There are companies that connect to thousands of other companies (see the
>financial markets) that require unique addressing between companies with
>non-colliding address ranges.  10.x.x.x doesn't quite cut it.

Which gets us back to a very basic issue. Are the RIRs, and ARIN for that 
matter handing out numbers for use on the public Internet, or are they 
handing out numbers for use with the Internet Protocol?

Use of the Internet Protocol extends far beyond the public, routable 
Internet. Such use is fair, reasonable and from the earliest days was not 
only permitted, but encouraged. Companies are able to register well known 
port numbers even if the applications associated are never used on the 
public Internet. Is that sensible? I'd argue it is. Addresses are just one 
more data item used by the Internet Protocol.

Dan 


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