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Re: Selfish routing

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (alex@yuriev.com)
Sun Apr 27 18:18:51 2003

Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 18:22:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: alex@yuriev.com
To: "David G. Andersen" <dga@lcs.mit.edu>
Cc: Mike Lloyd <drmike@routescience.com>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20030427220406.GA43386@lcs.mit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


> > alex@yuriev.com wrote:
> > >>But curiously, adding some 
> > >>incremental capacity to a network can, under some conditions, actually 
> > >>make it worse!
> > >
> > >Oh, rubbish.
> 
> To alex:  It's not necessary to add a tiny link to the network
> to make things worse.  In fact, the actual Braess Paradox example
> that roughgarden uses arises from the addition of a high-capacity,
> low-latency link in the wrong place.  It presumes the existence of
> a smaller capacity path through the network somewhere, but are you
> arguing that those paths don't exist?  I can show you a lot of them,
> since it's what my software (the aforementioned MIT RON project) is
> designed to exploit.  The Internet is full of weird, unexpected paths
> when you start routing in ways that the network designers didn't  intend.
> And that's what selfish routing _does_.

To those who really dont get what I am saying:


If you do not have enough capacity, the selfish or non-selfish routing does
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                                not matter.
                                ^^^^^^^^^^


99.99999% of network problems are caused by CAPACITY issues be that packet
loss, or routers incapable of dealing with the traffic.


Addressing 0.00001% of problems caused by selfish routing is not going to
make it better. Address the issues that cause 99.99999% of the problems
before addressing 0.00001%


Alex


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