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Re: Selfish routing

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (alex@yuriev.com)
Fri Apr 25 23:16:29 2003

Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 23:21:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: alex@yuriev.com
To: Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20030426030007.GE41027@overlord.e-gerbil.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


> Yes but... I seem to recall a few things about the network you are
> referring to (the "You are confused" is kindof a tip-off :P), and one of 
> those things was the complete and total meltdown with every fiber cut.

That was a totally braindead design - claiming that no backup path is better
than an ATM backup path is just silly.

> Sometimes you can win the battle with quantity of service, and sometimes
> you just don't have a choice in the matter... Why throw away the ability 
> to keep your network alive in the event of fiber cuts, DoS, or just the 
> realities of business, because of engineering religion...

Agreed.

However, claims "we have a special technology that magically avoids problems
in the networks that we do not control" is the egineering religion.

Alex


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