[57896] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Open relays and open proxies
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Curtis Maurand)
Fri Apr 25 20:09:05 2003
From: Curtis Maurand <curtis@maurand.com>
To: John Payne <john@sackheads.org>, Joe Abley <jabley@isc.org>,
Jack Bates <jbates@brightok.net>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 20:07:18 -0400
Cc: "Christopher J. Wolff" <chris@bblabs.com>,
"nanog@merit.edu" <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2147483647.1051271833@[192.168.1.101]>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
I think the most basic thing that any xSP could do to prevent relays and other
basic address spoofing would be to disable source ip routing in every router
that's installed. I would prevent a lot of abuse.
Curt
On Friday 25 April 2003 11:57, John Payne wrote:
> --On Friday, April 25, 2003 11:17 AM -0400 Joe Abley <jabley@isc.org> wrote:
> > On Friday, Apr 25, 2003, at 08:17 Canada/Eastern, Jack Bates wrote:
> >> With the exception of Joe-Jobs, spamvertised websites should be
> >> terminated.
> >
> > If this were rigorously enforced, it would provide a mechanism for
> > anybody with an axe to grind to take out any web site on the planet. Once
> > all the commercial web sites had been taken off the air, the commercial
> > web hosters would go out of business. Once all the web hosters were off
> > the air, the access providers would go out of business (since there would
> > be no interweb left for their customers to look at).
>
> Tired old argument that completely misses the "with the exception of joe
> jobs" clause.
