[5770] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Provider credibility - does it matter? was Re: Inter-provider relations
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jim Dixon)
Sat Oct 26 17:59:12 1996
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 23:08:27 +0100 (BST)
From: Jim Dixon <jdd@vbc.net>
To: Jeremy Porter <jerry@fc.net>
cc: "Robert E. Seastrom" <rs@bifrost.seastrom.com>, azeem@dial.pipex.com,
avg@quake.net, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <199610262039.PAA28822@freeside.fc.net>
On Sat, 26 Oct 1996, Jeremy Porter wrote:
> >As I said, my main point was that the Economist's model was seriously
> >flawed.
> > ...
> Of course, as long as there are more users of the Internet located
> in the US, and more content sites in the US, and the interesting
> applications located in the US, there will be a greater value
> to the non-us IPs to drop lines in, and as our Asian friends have
> pointed out it is often cheaper to drop lines to the West coast
> of the US than to drop inter-asia links.
This is just another seriously flawed model.
> If companies like Global Sprintlink, Cable and Wireless, etc,
> are going into non-US peering locations, then it is already
> changing.
Yes it is already changing. But as far as I can see, Global
SprintLink represents the old US-centric model: GSL is the
international arm of SprintLink and essentially sells bandwidth
into the States. C&W is setting itself up as a global backbone
provider.
> However compared to the amount of Internet bandwidth
> in the US, compared to elsewhere, I seriously doubt that there
> is any kind of siginifcant subisidy to US users.
I know it's hard to think about these things, but a T1 across the
Atlantic costs us 235 times as much as a T1 to MAE West. Comparing
Mbps is a joke.
> (Just because it costs non-US based ISPs more to play the
> fully connected game, doesn't mean there is a signficant cost
> difference, just a market imbalance.
Yes 235:1 is a bit of a market imbalance; some might say that it
is a significant cost difference.
)
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