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Re: Independent space from ARIN

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (bdragon@gweep.net)
Sat Apr 12 19:48:46 2003

To: jeffm@iglou.com (Jeff McAdams)
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 19:47:59 -0400 (EDT)
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20030412122914.GB23777@iglou.com> from "Jeff McAdams" at Apr 12, 2003 08:29:15 AM
From: <bdragon@gweep.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu


> Some of you *might* remember a rant I posted here several years ago
> about getting our first allocation from ARIN...many here suggested that
> I call ARIN and get clarification on the allocation (ie, they gave me a
> /20 when I offered to renumber out of a /20 plus a smattering of other
> blocks...mathematically impossible, of course).  So, when I called them
> back, they told me that renumbering out of our upstream provided space
> wasn't part of getting the allocation, and wasn't considered in the
> allocation process.
> 
> So, now, when I go for them for the next allocation, stating that I
> *wanted* to renumber out of these blocks, what do I get?  Another /20
> (now even more mathematically impossible than ever).  So, when I called
> emailed them for clarification, pointing out that I was actively looking
> to renumber out of upstream provided space and that a /20 wasn't enough
> space to do so...they told me that they weren't going to give me the
> space because the policy's wouldn't allow it (thus my first post), and
> that "You were going to renumber when you got your last allocation
> several years ago, and you didn't." (quote isn't exact, but captures the
> spirit of what was said).
> 
> Needless to say...ARIN needs a big foam cluebat upside the head...alas,
> I don't see it happening.

So, you didn't renumber out of PA space into PI space and then upon hitting
80% utilization asking for additional PI space, which would have been
justified at such point?

Perhaps the cluebat might do more good on you?


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