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RE: Looking for advice on datacenter electrical/generator
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Timo Janhunen)
Fri Apr 4 21:07:50 2003
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 21:01:16 -0500
To: Bill Woodcock <woody@pch.net>
From: Timo Janhunen <timo@aci.on.ca>
Cc: Matthew Kaufman <matthew@eeph.com>,
"'David Lesher'" <wb8foz@nrk.com>, "'nanog list'" <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.44.0304041747270.11198-100000@paixhost.pch.net>
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At 05:51 PM 04/04/2003 -0800, Bill Woodcock wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Timo Janhunen wrote:
> > Natural gas is volatile, hence not a good option in earthquake prone
> > areas - earthquake + natural gas line = big smelly leak - big
> smelly leak +
> > spark = big fire
>
>They're already there. Whether or not you use it doesn't affect the
>likelihood that it'll break in an earthquake. And FWIW, I've been
>throught a lot of earthquakes, and I've been through a lot of gas-line
>cuts, but the two have never coincided. Backhoes always so far.
Backhoe, earthquake, bottom line is that there's a break.
> > - The gas gets cut off immediately in any fire situation, usually
> > affecting a few city blocks at a time
>
>When was the last time you saw a fire that affected a few city blocks?
>I'm sure gas would be cut off in the event of a fire of that magnitude,
>but are you arguing that diesel delivery would continue? Trucks rolling
>through the maelstrom? I'm not sure what your point is here.
Gas being turned off usually affects a few city blocks.
> > Diesel generators come in both turbocharged and naturally aspirated
> > models, which can easily be serviced
>
>Hey, and engine is an engine, regardless of what you dump in the top.
>Doesn't make any difference to the mechanic, or the parts guy, or
>whatever... It's all the same parts.
Ask a mechanic that question. You'll likely get a somewhat different opinion.
Timo
