[57354] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Datacenter electrical/genset
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Damm)
Fri Apr 4 16:00:02 2003
From: Mike Damm <MikeD@irwinresearch.com>
To: 'Drew Weaver' <drew.weaver@thenap.com>,
'Dan Lockwood' <dlockwood@coe.shastalink.k12.ca.us>, nanog@merit.edu
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 13:00:21 -0800
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In all fairness, civil servants often get stuck with jobs that fall outside
their realm of expertise, but need to get done none the less. Also remember
that the budget of a public school is a little different from yours, and
does not have the in-house resources of a telecom focused business. At least
he was smart enough to know where to go for some help.
He didn't ask anyone to design his power setup, or his cages. He simply
asked for some insight to make sure the way his electrical engineer was
doing things wouldn't cause more problems down the road.
---
Michael Damm, MIS Department, Irwin Research & Development
V: 509.457.5080 x298 F: 509.577.0301 E: miked@irwinresearch.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Drew Weaver [mailto:drew.weaver@thenap.com]
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 12:11 PM
To: 'Dan Lockwood'; nanog@merit.edu
Subject: RE: Datacenter electrical/genset
I think maybe the reason you are being flamed is because generally people
put in charge with the design/roll out of a data center environment should
already know something about the logistics of such a project. Whether it is
power, network, or pretty much any aspect of it for that matter. Also it can
be fairly hard to determine the power requirements of a location without
specific information, and the lack of said information probably frustrated
people.
Just a little editorial on why you may be getting flamed.
-Drew
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Lockwood [mailto:dlockwood@coe.shastalink.k12.ca.us]
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 2:17 PM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Datacenter electrical/genset
To throw some water on the flames that I have been receiving, I will be
posting a summary of everyone's good information this weekend when I get
time. It is my intention to make that information available to the
community. Calling me names is childish and unnecessary. Again, thanks to
those that took the time to participate.
Dan Lockwood
Microsoft Certified Professional
CompTIA Network+ Certified
Cisco Certified Network Associate
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In all fairness, civil servants often get
stuck with jobs that fall outside their realm of expertise, but need to get
done none the less. Also remember that the budget of a public school is a
little different from yours, and does not have the in-house resources of a
telecom focused business. At least he was smart enough to know where to go for some
help.</span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>He didn't ask anyone to design his
power setup, or his cages. He simply asked for some insight to make sure the
way his electrical engineer was doing things wouldn't cause more problems
down the road.</span></font></p>
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color:navy'>Michael Damm, MIS Department, Irwin Research & Development</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Drew Weaver
[mailto:drew.weaver@thenap.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, April 04, 2003 12:11
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Dan Lockwood';
nanog@merit.edu<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Datacenter
electrical/genset</span></font></p>
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color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>I think maybe the reason you are being flamed is because generally
people put in charge with the design/roll out of a data center environment
should already know something about the logistics of such a project. Whether it
is power, network, or pretty much any aspect of it for that matter. Also it can
be fairly hard to determine the power requirements of a location without
specific information, and the lack of said information probably frustrated
people.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:.5in'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:.5in'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Just a little editorial on why you may be getting flamed.</span></font></p>
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color:navy'>-Drew</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Dan Lockwood
[mailto:dlockwood@coe.shastalink.k12.ca.us] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, April 04, 2003 2:17
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> nanog@merit.edu<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Datacenter
electrical/genset</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>To throw some water on the flames that
I have been receiving, I will be posting a summary of everyone's good
information this weekend when I get time. It is my intention to make that
information available to the community. Calling me names is childish and
unnecessary. Again, thanks to those that took the time to participate.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Microsoft Certified Professional</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>CompTIA Network+ Certified</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Cisco Certified Network Associate</span></font></p>
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