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Re: State Super-DMCA Too True

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jack Bates)
Mon Mar 31 19:12:51 2003

Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 18:11:31 -0600
From: Jack Bates <jbates@brightok.net>
To: Dan Hollis <goemon@anime.net>
Cc: Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>,
	"Kuhtz, Christian" <christian.kuhtz@bellsouth.com>,
	todd glassey <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net>,
	Michael Loftis <mloftis@wgops.com>,
	"Robert A. Hayden" <rhayden@geek.net>,
	North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0303311559080.3384-100000@sasami.anime.net>
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Dan Hollis wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, Jack Bates wrote:
> 
>>On the other hand, an ISP that *is* aware of illegal activity would be 
>>negligent not to look into it.
> 
> 
> How about the tier1's who route abuse@ to /dev/null? IMHO they are 
> negligent and should be held liable...
> 

I completely agree. Of course, they may be relying on the fact that they 
don't do anything outside of the scope of being a common carrier, so 
they shouldn't be held liable, despite the fact that they go against the 
agreed upon common good (i.e. abuse@ being manned).


-Jack



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