[57223] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: State Super-DMCA Too True
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen Sprunk)
Mon Mar 31 18:36:40 2003
From: "Stephen Sprunk" <stephen@sprunk.org>
To: "Kuhtz, Christian" <christian.kuhtz@bellsouth.com>
Cc: "Matthew S. Hallacy" <poptix@techmonkeys.org>,
"Mike Lyon" <mlyon@fitzharris.com>,
"North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes" <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 17:32:52 -0600
Errors-To: owner-nanog-outgoing@merit.edu
Thus spake "Kuhtz, Christian" <christian.kuhtz@bellsouth.com>
> [..]
> > AT&T/Comcast doesn't sell business accounts
> > (at least not here) but they will now sell you a more expensive package,
> > 3.5Mbit/384kbit, for $95/mo, including 'model rental fee', it includes
> > 5 IP addresses "VPN Capability"(?) as well.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Perhaps that is advertised as such because of issues around VPN
> clients behind NAT/PAT devices. Some work better than others.
> Having a non-NAT address stops most of those issues.
>
> Or, that's me trying to figure out what a marketeer might've been
> thinking. Ugh. Ouch. Stop. That hurts. Quit it. Ouch. Ouch.
Some cable ISPs block IPsec and PPTP for "residential" service, claiming
VPNs are only used by telecommuters and thus require their more expensive
"business" services.
S
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